http://martialhistory.com/2007/11/was-savates-drop-kick-from-pro-wrestling/ Articles, Reprints, Reviews, and Other Martial Arts Miscellanea Sun, 05 Sep 2010 11:58:02 -0400 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 http://martialhistory.com/2007/11/was-savates-drop-kick-from-pro-wrestling/comment-page-1/#comment-102 Bobby Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:01:23 +0000 http://martialhistory.com/2007/11/05/was-savates-drop-kick-from-pro-wrestling/#comment-102 So, to reply your question: "Was Savate’s Drop Kick from Pro Wrestling?" I would say, maybe. It comes from pro-wrestling. Or from jiujitsu. So, to reply your question:
“Was Savate’s Drop Kick from Pro Wrestling?”
I would say, maybe. It comes from pro-wrestling. Or from jiujitsu.

]]> http://martialhistory.com/2007/11/was-savates-drop-kick-from-pro-wrestling/comment-page-1/#comment-101 Bobby Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:41:37 +0000 http://martialhistory.com/2007/11/05/was-savates-drop-kick-from-pro-wrestling/#comment-101 About Tegner, yes, if we consider his book of 1960 he shows some different techniques of drop-kick (see pages #74, #77, #87). But if we take a look at the books of Savate written in France before 1930, we do not find them. There is no mention of the drop-kick, no picture, nothing. Why? Because only after Savoldi's propaganda around 1930s, and the jiu-jitsu courses that spread in France, French incorporated that particular kick (and many other techniques) into Savate. Savate evolved again during 1970s, when Boxe Americaine or karate full contact competitions took place in Paris. Today the art of Savate is a mix of wrestling, muaythai and brazilian jiujitsu. It just keep its original name, Savate. Unfortunately it is everything but real Savate. About Tegner, yes, if we consider his book of 1960 he shows some different techniques of drop-kick (see pages #74, #77, #87). But if we take a look at the books of Savate written in France before 1930, we do not find them. There is no mention of the drop-kick, no picture, nothing. Why? Because only after Savoldi’s propaganda around 1930s, and the jiu-jitsu courses that spread in France, French incorporated that particular kick (and many other techniques) into Savate. Savate evolved again during 1970s, when Boxe Americaine or karate full contact competitions took place in Paris. Today the art of Savate is a mix of wrestling, muaythai and brazilian jiujitsu. It just keep its original name, Savate. Unfortunately it is everything but real Savate.

]]> http://martialhistory.com/2007/11/was-savates-drop-kick-from-pro-wrestling/comment-page-1/#comment-29 Tony Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:14:06 +0000 http://martialhistory.com/2007/11/05/was-savates-drop-kick-from-pro-wrestling/#comment-29 When I was pro-wrestling, the drop kick was ocassionally referred to by old-timers as a "slavat" (note spelling) kick. Oddly enough, the same spelling was used by a old-time Hollywood stuntman, former pro-wrestler and all-around rough'n'tumble guy named Joe Bonomo, to describe a novelty (demonstration) fight he once had with Jack Dempsey (IIRC)sometime in the early '20s. There was no indication that Bonomo had actually trained in savate, he just seems to have improvised some showy kicks backed up by general athleticism. When I was pro-wrestling, the drop kick was ocassionally referred to by old-timers as a “slavat” (note spelling) kick. Oddly enough, the same spelling was used by a old-time Hollywood stuntman, former pro-wrestler and all-around rough’n'tumble guy named Joe Bonomo, to describe a novelty (demonstration) fight he once had with Jack Dempsey (IIRC)sometime in the early ’20s. There was no indication that Bonomo had actually trained in savate, he just seems to have improvised some showy kicks backed up by general athleticism.

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